Trust me I know. I've been there for 5 years. I don't know how you stayed a mod for as long as you have because I gave the fuck up after my third try. The shit has gotten out of control, and it's based on some flawed libertarian bullshit that admins have always had as a doctrine of running the site. They've never had any idea on how to approach a community correctly and they have no idea that it's failed miserably. Once big money got involved they were completely fucking lost. At least here we have mk attempting things the community says and has a team built out of users. I don't know how involved you are in hubski itself or how much coding experience you have, but I know you have the community experience to make some serious great changes with this site, and we can't have just what people are asking for because they ask for some stupid shit usually, especially when coming from other sites.

So how do we go about having a balance between a creator ideas and user ideas and having select users having too much say? If mk asks us "what do you think of this idea?" and they say "we fucking hate it" resoundingly, despite the majority of the naysayers saying "we should implement a karma system!" then what the fuck do we do? Or if there's a new idea that's never been done on any site that's revolutionary and has to be implemented to test the waters?