Okay Hubski, I have a question. First, a bit of background on my philosophy: if a person can accurately predict the future, then they can choose to betray that future and have potential for free will. However, that choice is subconsciously predetermined due to past events/factors that ultimately decide that person's choice.

What do you all think about this?

For example: Susie wants to buy a bike. Susie knows that she has trouble committing to purchases, and knows that in the future she will never buy the bike. She (supposedly randomly) decides to buy the bike instead (betray her prediction). Here's the thing: Susie doesn't remember this in current times, but when she was a child, her now deceased father used to take her on bike rides and she has a subconscious soft spot for bike riding, which ultimately caused her to "decide" to buy the bike (subconscious predetermining factor).

johnjohnrocks:

In discussions of abstract concepts like free will it helps to try to more concretely define the term. Although I do realize that that's no small task, and you did give some indication of what free will means to you.

Anyway, my thoughts: Everything in the universe is subject to physical laws. This includes human brains, in all their multi-layered, recursive, looping complexity. This doesn't seem to allow for "real" free will. The two ways around this are extra-universal influence/interaction and strong emergence. I'm not religious, and strong emergence reeks of bullshit to me. It's often used exclusively in relation to consciousness which seems awfully arrogant. Some people just really want to be in control...

But I don't think about free will much anymore. I just live, man.


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