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_refugee_  ·  4044 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: A list of "Men's Rights" issues that feminism is already working on

I feel like this kind of comes down to an interesting question about ignorance; if you're not aware that you're propagating the patriarchy then are you still guilty as an accessory of the patriarchy? In our legal system (US), not knowing you're committing a crime isn't an excuse. That has always been an interesting point for me because, well, I want to be a law-abiding citizen (most of the time anyway) but if I'm breaking a law I don't know about, I'm kind of boned, right?

I guess the counter to that is that most laws should be common sense (i.e., don't kill anyone) but knowing about patriarchy, etc, ... well, the 'patriarchy' is ingrained into our culture as a norm for the most part. So you can't really claim that it's common sense to know about it and act against it. So I don't think that you can say that people who don't know what they're propagating should be held guilty for their actions.

Except that seems like a really stickily moral thing to say, you know? Like, I'm afraid someone's going to come out with a comparision to Nazi Germany that completely proves me wrong here. I don't know. I don't condone normalizing killing people or whatever.

It's hard to hold people guilty for esoteric, not-obvious things that they don't know about. Which then raises the question of how obvious is feminism and how obvious should it be, really?

Sorry for the ramble, humanodon. btw, I'm really enjoying following you.