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Right. I finished the article before posting. I should clarify that I didn't mean you, I meant most of the evolutionary scientists I've read. That said, I think the only thing I found new or interesting in the post was the quote about chimps not jumping. Most of the examples for suicide have stark differences from human suicide, since I'd say the overwhelming majority of those 51,401 don't commit suicide to save everyone else from a threat. And the conclusion that "suicide itself is not adaptive; it seems to be a last resort effort for us to reach out for help" is somewhat less than shocking.