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steve  ·  1459 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Coronavirus: pathogen could have been spreading in humans for years, study says

look - I agree - the Chinese stats are NO WAY accurate. China will try to save face at every opportunity.

on one end of the spectrum you have "The Chinese government is being transparent" and on the other end is "The Epoch Times is reporiting 23 million people missing and crematoriums burning 40,000 people per day".

Somewhere in between them is the truth - and my bet is - we'll never really know.