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kleinbl00  ·  1795 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Sci-Fi club: general discussion

Game of Thrones had the most inevitable surprise ending in the history of television. It's been 73 hours of destiny, preordainment and prophecy and the final dispositions of the characters are not only fitting, just and appropriate, they represent the best possible results given the character development and past performance of every player on the board. The people hating on Game of Thrones right now are the ones who thought the ending of The Sopranos was "ambivalent."

‘Game Of Thrones’ Showrunners Disappointed With How Quality Of Fans Has Dropped Off Over Past Couple Seasons

A screenwriter I know once said that the nine most powerful words in the history of screenwriting were "He fought with your father in the Clone Wars." In one sentence, Lucas built an entire universe that establishes Luke, Darth and Obi Wan as minor threads on a rich tapestry. Of course then Lucas had to ruin the shit out of it as he always does but there was a moment there, a moment that launched an industry, where the world was real it was so deep. My buddy told me that the idea came from a fan letter that JRR Tolkien answered once - she wanted to know what lay beyond the Mountains of Moria. Tolkien said "if I tell you, you'll want to know what's beyond that and what's beyond that and so on. What's important is that I know what lies beyond."

I don't think a culture that's been spoon-fed kneejerk destiny over forty five superhero movies can even see anything beyond their immediate desire to get the girl, kill the baddies and save the entire planet. This kind of entitled tantrum is a symptom of a ComicCon Culture that's gone malignant. It's a "customer is always right" mentality that deserves to starve. It's the kind of dumb shit that gets us a sequel to Blade Runner 30 years later because... we all needed to know what happened next? We didn't. We don't.

Science fiction used to be about speculation. Now it's about lycra and laser beam eyes. Fans used to interact with authors. Now they demand boons from them.

You know what's a pretty good show? The new Star Trek. I don't mean it's a good Star Trek show, I mean it's a pretty good show. Star Trek: The Next Generation had maybe a season and a half of legitimately brilliant writing that put it in the running with shows like Mad Men or West Wing but by and large, it was fair-to-middlin'. The new CBS Star Trek has not hit "brilliant" at any point but by and large, it's a reasonably good show on an objective basis. If it weren't for that season-and-a-half of TNG I would say it's the best Star Trek show ever made and if it weren't for Wrath of Khan and that season-and-a-half I would say it's the best Star Trek ever made. And it pains me to say this because I really don't care for Kurtzman and Orci but maybe I just don't care for Orci.

We've also made it through two seasons of The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina or whatever it's called and it's every bit as mediocre as you'd imagine despite the fact that it's got witchcraft and Archie comics. But you know what's actually pretty good? The Order. And not just because they totally upended the world at the end of Season 1. Apparently it's got a 100% Fresh rating on RT because only 5 people give a shit.

I think I liked sci fi better back when nobody gave a shit. I personally have lamented the fact that you can't make sci fi for more than a million dollars or less than a hundred but sweet holy jesus I liked it a lot better when goofy Canadians were failing their way through Primer than when Marvel spent three billion dollars to go back in time to kill Hitler.

HOW'S THAT FOR GENERAL