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user-inactivated  ·  2193 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Philosophers of Hubski, do you think Justice is a universal constant?

    When we have a good definition of consciousness ask that question again. untill you can ask a monkey about it's motivations, you can't ascribe human concepts to evolved behavior.

If we see reflections of concepts such as altruism in animals, which are themselves reflections of concepts such as Justice and Morality, wouldn't that in some ways point to the idea that Justice is a naturally occurring phenomenon?

    An argument in favor of my point. This all occurs in your head.

Is it though? Would you argue then, that our thoughts and feelings aren't real, and therefore unworthy of consideration and potentially inconsequential?

    Depending on your definitions, it can be said that humans label certain actions and behaviors 'Just' and so 'Justice' exists as a set of behaviors we exhibit. Which I think still supports my point. Thought leads to behavior.

In another light of my previous question about thoughts, if behavior is the consequence of thought, where does that leave us?

    This of course all goes out the window if you bring deity into the question, which I explicitly choose to not do.

I think we're doing just fine viewing things from a secular lens. I like your answers by the way. They're making me think.

I'll tell you what, because I feel like I'm being unfair to you by asking so many questions. I'm gonna take the dog for a walk and when I get back, I'll post my thoughts on the matter and you can ask me questions as well.